Monday, 28 April 2025

Old Highs, New Lows

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Having worked in all sectors of IT across my working life, I can’t say I made a conscious decision to spend getting on for 28 years in SocialHousing ICT, but there you go. Over the years I have been the natural sponge and absorbed whatever sectors I toiled in, even remembering my retail or logistics experience, often decades later.

Many of my friends, contacts and clients will know I spent my first fourteen housing sector years at MIS Active Management Systems, home (originally of HAMIS and) ActiveH, last 5 of which as Managing Director for my sins. Mostly happy times with many decent hardworking people, not without its quirks and politics as most small companies have. Glen Lewis and Richard Chambers will be familiar to many, as will some of the others, a few with a SOH bypass who made a Christmas appearance in my ‘Hamis Recorder’.

In some of the sales demos I attended back in the 2010's pitching for MIS, we often bumped into Ian Lockwood or Chris Harvey coming into the prospect for the afternoon session. It was good to take a good few of those back then. Many of those RSLs are just about back out again now.

When I first started, there were over 25 products/suppliers available to anyone needing a housing management system. With the agreed sale of MIS-AMS announced today (somewhat quicker than Homemaster last month), that reduces the bigger supplier beast to the UK Housing procurement equivalent of the four corners of Jurassic Park. Aareon, Civica, MRI (now Capita owners) & NEC. Which of these might be the most precarious and whose long term fate might be more tied to its VC owners?

A bit like the movie, a lot of these solutions feel like they are sharing a lot of the old shared stale DNA. With such similar multiple solutions in so little hands, it’s a wonder the Competition & Mergers Commission is asleep at the wheel yet again with this new ‘we are thrilled & proud’ PR messaging from the purchaser. Where will this leave InclineIT & ActiveF (ActiveFinance) then? 

Still that leaves one true indy innovator left standing, Rubixx. No debt, no external investors or shareholders. What a luxury to only answer to clients. A solution that if you have not already taken a look at, you should take a shufty. Simon Reay has got most legacy solutions on his bingo card, he should have picking up over 30 deals in the last three years. I recall Simon proudly telling be when he had won Melville HA from MIS up in Midlothian. Actually that was the first HMS implementation I ever did back in 1998.  Like Simon, I will be fascinated to see how selling a culture of caring about customers, now plays out under a new regime

One class of alternative solutions that I can hardly see spooking the C&MC, are the resellers of CRM based platform housing solutions. You know the ones, Microsoft Dynamics 365 or Salesforce. These are the new alternatives to the traditional suppliers, providing freedom from solutions being bought up and flexibility to do something else. These RSLs often have deeper pockets too. Strangely when some of these housing CRM resellers are historically snapped up by big outfits, they are often suffocated. Why can’t some of the Jurastic’s manage to tap into this potential and take on a reseller building more expensive solutions? Maybe their management structures cannot support it or maybe just the imagination is not there. Maybe we will have to wait until Plentific try their hand at this?

What will the big suppliers propose to the market from their bag of product? Even now I experience confusion where rival options are available. One of the biggest challenges, is often integration, that is particularly older products have not been plugged together before and its still challenging at time in 2025. Just cause it has the same logo on it, should not con you into thinking integration will be a breeze.Also, how much innovation is occurring ? Some of our larger suppliers seem reluctant to invest big.

With the urge of the sector to select best of breed to mix and match, how will this pan out with achieving data standards aspirations? Also, how much more needs to be budgeted for more client side maintenance of solutions, rather than contacting that single supplier help desk?

When merged and the usual skill ‘wastage’ occurs, how well will that combined helpdesk for three housing systems going to function for customers? A new call logging system does not always make a better helpdesk. While Aareon have recently moved to a new system, how will all those support staff and clients take now to going back to a supplier they may have left just a few years ago, or maybe just in a transition away from Aareon?

So how will success be judged here?

Well by RSLs & SocialHousing organisations, probably if these buyouts lead to significant investment & innovative product. That has certainly appeared to have happened with Rubixx and NEC, as can be seen by consistent new wins. Will we see a return to procurement wins from the others, or just a sweating of existing customer revenues? No one wants to just feel like a number in a supplier's sales ledger, squeezed each year by increased costs. Always as ever, are the dangers of suppliers trying to re-contract. It will take 12-18 months to see how this all settles down.

Well if you are staff or customer touched by this today, I wish you well on your journey to or from AWS Appstream, Fixflo, Arthur, Assetcore, MRI Documotive, Homeo, OpenAccounts etc. Thinking about it, these are all blending into each other now, aren’t they? Maybe only Rubixx & the CRM resellers will clean up after this one - lets see !

Any comments, observations or queries, please share.  

 

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Saturday, 5 April 2025

1 of 2

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More buyout and product renaming news this month. Yes, it's getting hard to keep up, after that recent Homemaster sellout !

Following the completion of the CMA’s competition enquiry into Capita’s public software arm being bought up by US Real Estate software behemoth MRI, news leaks out about where next for the original survivor.

Starting as IBS OpenHousing back in dinosaur days B.C. (Before Capita OBVs), it was originally known as OpenHousing. I remember the extremely persuasive golden touch of Davinder Sanghera, the velvet tongue of perma-tanned sales anchor Neil Green (like Brucie handling his dolly-dealers), virtually scooping up every procurement deal out there between 1999 & early 2000’s.

In 2008 IBS was acquired by Capita who already had the aging Academy HMS platform. From memory I think the initial play looked to migrate all the OpenHousing clients to Academy, although that soon appeared to be reversed as OH was regarded as the superior offering. I was involved in a few Academy-2-OpenHousing migrations in my time.

A dip in sales in the mid-2010’s and the Progress Database version becoming less popular than SQL Server prompted the start of a development of an underlying SQL database version. Before Covid lockdown, work was already in play on a browser presentation version, which had an improved feel than the functional but clunky Progress UI. Totalmobile forms and the Mendel scheduler (if DRS was not favoured..) was the mobile working offering.

Post C19 saw Capita coming back to competitive & framework procurements gaining traction and signing up older sites to migrate to the new product OneHousing, in the Cloud. Capita Software services being for sale for some time provided opportunities for many in the sector. I heard rumours that Plentific, Aareon, Totalmobile and others may be seeing OneHousing as a bargain proposition to enhance a wider portfolio or drag themselves into the socialhousing 2020’s.

MRI were always on my bingo card however, although adding a second ‘bigger housing system option’ into the mix, is sure to raise a few queries. Can two big solutions be merged into a single already crowded helpdesk? Will existing Orchard or OpenHousing sites see a push more towards a confederation of different products integrated together, or predominantly a single offering. The latter potentially feels easier for upgrades etc, particularly if that’s a SAAS offering. Also, will Totalmobile be replaced by a MRI in-house solution to concentrate IP. Indeed if its 100% of MRI’s IP, its all profit.

So what will this new MRI product be named? There's been mistakes before. Aareon was originally calling its QLX in a browser ‘NG’. This is a Hollywood expression, the opposite of OK. Still, that became Yuneo ‘Its about you’ and had its plug pulled a few years later, not even really seeing the time of day.

I’ve heard from my spies that it took many minutes of consideration and the new inviting name ‘MRI Housing One’ was born. I’ve always thought PR was a money for nothing game, just swap the words around.

Although what’s in a new name, does that mean the old Orchard solution is a number two? Well, we will just have to see how that one pans out (not pun intended!).

 

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The Damned – 1 of 2The Damned – 1 of 2.
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