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We are at an interesting place in the life cycles of a number of traditional integrated housing systems in the UK and Irish marketplace. From a choice of just about nine options, not all covering the full spectrum of a few hundred to a few hundred units either, many are at somewhat of an impasse.

Some are now and feel very, very old and long in the tooth, using some old or unpopular technology (Silverlight, VB6 etc) or pretty much declared (officially or unofficially) end-of-life already.

Its no wonder that MS Dynamics CRM resellers, are seeing some potential rich pickings, based on offerings available and/or the perceived or actual level of customer care received, from existing or previous suppliers.

Some existing suppliers are working hard to redevelop their solutions, particularly into an improved, or new browser presentation. Having past experience of a rewrite that was originally estimated at 18 months and took over for years eventually, I am aware of the rampant unreliability of developer estimates. Even worse if those estimates and targets are driven by sales.

Blimey I am forever railing against people giving me wild estimates. I must sound like a stuck record. Are these staff inexperienced, short-sighted, or unable to bother taking previous projects and learn the lessons from what worked well and less well there?

Clearly for building new software, the cost of development in the UK and the variable skill-set, attitude, motivation of developers etc, can limit how fast new products can be brought to market. Have too small a pool or ones with limited skills, maybe losing two or three particularly talented staff, can all put a break on rapid transformation of products.

The clear shortcut to accelerating development and product production is off-shoring.

Interesting to read this month that Castleton are the latest to explore enhancing their operation with India offices, Bangalore in the south and Baroda in the north. There’s potential here for some accelerated development, although from my previous experience, off-shore teams need careful management.

Mukesh Patel, Sushil Tasgaonkar, Dean Dickinson, Ian Niblock

Other suppliers have seen development run away or perhaps not provide expected productivity, without embedding ‘senior managers’ or directors, in the off-shore operation for 4 or 6 weeks typically, at a time, to get the absolute best from a remote operation. Nice work if you can get it, if you like the culture, such as the famous Benne Masala Dosa with chutney, bring it on. I enjoyed Bangalore very much when I backpacked around the sub-continent, a few decades ago.

The key managers in India have worked with CEO Dean Dickinson before, in his previous life at Advanced/COA, so hopefully Castleton customers may be experiencing the benefits of the new additions soon, without excessive supervision. My contacts in the know tell me that direct off-shore salaries can be up to a seventh of equivalent UK salaries, for effective development.

16 staff are mentioned, compared with other suppliers known to me doing this, that sounds like a very low number. At least doubling or trebling that, might well provide more bang for the buck, also allowing some true leap-frogging here from Castleton. Just a thought, it would be great to see suppliers stepping up.  

Read more from the news release here

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Demo Room Dummies

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Who loves demonstrations more, suppliers or prospects/customers?

I am not sure what you the reader is feeling right now, but I sit through a number of demos, which can frankly be a waste of time. Occasionally I am asked to organise a demo that I know for one reason or another, will be a fruitless errand.

Now most people who know me, understand that I take this stuff extremely seriously. Maybe too seriously.  As an ex-Catholic altar boy, I would probably be setting myself up for hundreds of ‘Our Fathers’ after a Saturday confession, or a fair few years toasting, at gas mark 9 (or they might crank it up to 11) in purgatory, if I set out from the start to undertake such a wicked consultancy sin.

However sometimes, organisations either have fixed ideas about demos, or cannot allocate sufficient resource to have the right staff in the demo, or sessions in it. While it’s said that ‘The Customer is always right’, maybe that needs to be taken into account, but it does not always follows that ‘The Customer is always correct’. If that were right, there would be no need to get a consultant in to organise ‘best practice’, now would there?

Suppliers and clients/prospects need to know why the demo is necessary and what duration is optimal. It’s an answer I can generally, easily navigate to and often suppliers do (at times), honestly flag it up. Sometimes a couple of hours is enough for some ‘standalone’ or ‘niche’ solutions. A supplementary hour might have to be tacked on for the ICT team to explore integration, definitely a subject you need to understand as early as possible.

More elaborate and complex solutions may warrant up to a day. A full housing management system, perhaps many days or even a week or more. (Yes really!).

I once spent six whole days helping demonstrate a module of a housing system each day, in a secret location in the West Midlands. The depth was intense. It was right that was that intense, on that occasion.

In many cases the more risk involved, perhaps the more intense and proscriptive the demos should be. Aside from the demo length, quality of attendees, really matter. I heard one story of a large supplier who suggested a minimum of three days of a particular demo might be optimum. The client pruned it down so much it was an extremely general overview, telescoped into less than one day, with nearly 80 of the wrong people sitting through it, wasting everyone’s time.

Guess what? It was a total waste of time, for managers who did not see it, users who attended to make up the numbers and the demo people, from the supplier, who did not manage to communicate much either.

So readers, take some lessons learnt from the above. Never mind getting the right content at your demos (which I must come back to another time!), at least start with who you have in the room. Fill it with the right staff, everyone will benefit. Fill it with just spare staff, you might as well wheel in the showroom dummies!

If you need  help to navigate the minefield of a particular demo with one or more suppliers, no problem, please be in touch.

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