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Thursday, 27 March 2025

Sell Out

If you do the X / Bluesky thing, follow me at @HousingITguy or LinkedIn here https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tonysmiththathousingitguy

I got down to ‘The Smoke’, this last Monday to present at the DIN (Disruptive Innovators Network), invited by Ian Wright. I recall him some years ago lamenting the lack of any significant new Housing System Platforms, being created since way back in the 2010’s. 

 

Paul Hackett CBE,CEO
Southern Housing
It was a very interesting day with input from Glen Robinson, National Technology Officer, Microsoft UK, Paul Hackett CBE, CEO, Southern Housing, Christine Paxton / Steve Key of SHINE (Social Housing Innovators North East) & John Vary, former Head of Innovation, John Lewis.

He had a point as any charity, HA, RSL or council in the UK & British Isles of any real size, has a pretty shrunken choice of solution(s) that offer modern ‘Responsive Browser’ presentation, SAAS and full Cloud. Most COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf Solutions) come from barely a handful of reliable suppliers, since the buy-out consolidations of the last decade.

I thought very carefully how to encapsulate the archaeological dig needed to explain how exactly we got here, of course being gentle to our hosts at Two Kingdom Street, Paddington (Natch). The latter of course has resellers with various degrees of productised config and ability to sell you some bespoke-ing if required, in order to ensure you need plenty of staff to manage that uniqueness way into the future. Other CRM/ERM platforms are available and it would be amiss for me to not name Salesforce too, as the extra economical option with very reasonable licensing for SocialHousing, that those 1980s DJ jocks ‘Smashy & Nicey’, could only describe as ‘C-H-A-R-I-T-Y---M-A-T-E’.

At the end of the presentation, I talked about ‘The Young Pretenders’.

Yes, guess what? There are two new solutions out there, created within the last 5 & 3 years, that meet those basic modern standards, also combining housing/finance.
 


The first was Homemaster from Designer Software, the ex-Kypera Castleton PLC lads. One solution that has been particularly successful in Scotland, converting ex-Kypera, Aareon, SDM and other supplier legacy solution sites. It’s a good COTS solution designed for the under 6k home providers, with self-service portal provided by acquired just last year, ‘Housing Online’. A quick solution to implement, just carefully check your contract conditions.

Secondly, maybe something for the bigger provider, we have Rubixx, maybe the dinosaur supplier slayer solution, attracting larger and larger customers month on month. True multi-tenant Cloud solution that utilises all those technologies that your geekiest developers, would love to be developing in. Modern free open API’s and out of the box integrations with modern Cloud partners, such as MoreIQ, Propeller, HousingInsight, CxFeedback etc. Finance is claimed to exceed the functionality of OpenAccounts, so maybe an alternative consideration to OneAdvanced Cloud Financials.

Rubixx have already converted legacy Capita, Kypera, Aareon, MIS-AMS and MRI sites over to the modern world, at a fixed price per rentable property.

I have worked with clients who have chosen these new solutions and appeared to have had some good experiences.

Well, they do say ‘A week is a long time in politics’, well a week in Social Housing IT seems to be even longer. Its barely Thursday and a big sell out has already occurred. After failing over 4 years to write a new Cloud solution, one of the Jurastic Park big beasts have splashed out on Homemaster. How they beat Plentific to that, I don’t know. That’s who I had on my Bingo-Masters Break-Out card.

No doubt a plan is already in the works to show the new prize to existing QLX & QLF customers later this year, and promise a more elaborately engineered version, on the roadmap, capable of handling bigger stock portfolios. Maybe let someone else be the first bigger pioneers on that one. It would be interesting to see what’s produced, in a 4 way penalty shootout with the bigger modern beasts out there. Hopefully this will not go off-radar like Yuneo, the "QL NG". Its worth rebranding as 'Homeo' I think (Aareon are welcome to that advice for free!).

Having taken quite a few QLX sites over the last five years, I am unsure if those Homemaster customers will be over the moon returning to Aareon’s sales ledger. Also, inevitably a merged helpdesk is sure to result, as all mergers tend to do. How will that continue existing strong relationships and stem ‘brain drain’ of experienced staff? Looking on the brightside, Aareon can at least celebrate their first win of the year at Waverley Housing, once that one is quietly waved through.

I am sure many organisations (and suppliers of course) will mull this over, across the weekend and let it all sink in. Are the dinosaurs waking up to the asteroid, or just hunkering down with new primates, carnivores, herbivores and vegetarians, then hoping for the best?

02/04/2025 Update (a whole week later) - Aareon finally officially announce the acquisition - maybe they were avoiding the MMC, after MRI & Capita challenge ? Do you think choice in the market is being reduced or enhanced? Do let us know.

 

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Levellers – Sell OutLevellers – Sell Out.
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Friday, 2 April 2021

The Black Hit Of Space

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One single from my 1970’s, way before Phil Oakey made the Human League 80’s cool with Susan and Joanne, has always stuck with me as lyric brilliance, The Black Hit Of Space. 

Now I love the Human League pre & post the split, but this track must be one of the most brilliant. It’s the tale of stuff getting out of hand. A hit that reaches number one in the charts, then carries on into minus figures.

“I reached for the tone arm which was less than one micron long, but weighed more than Saturn and time stood still”

For some finance teams, their chart of accounts can feel like that turntable tone arm, weighing more than Saturn. That’s the second largest planet in our solar system and I would say that if anyone out there has more than 5,000 cost centres in their chart of accounts, they probably have a Saturn Shaped problem. The big question is ‘Why’?

The answer is usually that staff, managers etc cannot extract reports from feeder systems, so they ask for more and more detail to be recorded within the finance nominal or general leger. The point that is missed unfortunately, is that the detail clearly already exists in the feeder (Housing, Repairs or Contractor etc) solutions. So why push the feeder system problems, further down the line?

I have heard many tales and witnessed a few organisations suffering this issue. Many people tell me they don’t get it. My explanation is the difference between my shopping trips and my credit card bill. The former could include lots of craft beer, fancy cheese and macaroons. Perhaps 50-100 items and lots of detail. I pay using a credit card. When I look at my Visa bill, I can see what I spent at Morrison’s, but not how much of it was cheese. That was detailed on my shopping bill, if I was interested in analysing it.

The detail stays where it belongs.

Organisations need to stay firm to use finance solutions at the level that is sensible. They should not be providing a Band Aid plaster to get around poor reporting facilities, elsewhere in the organisation feeder systems. Finance team manager’s need to be strong in how they tackle this. The answer is not to expand finance, its to sort out detail reporting.

As anyone who knows me from procurements, they know my distain about the general quality of standard system reporting provision. Tragically, some have laid this deficiency at the door of finance teams. If you are a finance manager or director, suffering a chart of accounts looking like Saturn, then revaluate your feeder solution and work to slim Cost Centres down.

Look again and invest in feeder systems, no need to get James Burke on the case….

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Human League – Black Hit Of SpaceHuman League – Black Hit Of Space.
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Sunday, 4 December 2016

Financial systems - Stand Up & Be Counted

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It might have passed you by, but A few weeks ago, Microsoft launched its new finance system offering, Dynamics365.

Now Microsoft are not short of general purpose financial solutions, as users of the other Dynamics stable will be aware. Namely, NAV (Navision), Great Plains and AX. I have heard criticism over the years of the sometimes techie nature of those solutions at times.

Being typical Microsnore, there's usually four or more tools for the job, the dilemma is making sure you have picked up the right one and it's not the chainsaw with no handle.

There's certainly some flash looking cloud based SAAS offerings out there currently, as anyone who has looked at finance systems lately will be aware.

Dynamics365 is so newly released, currently it's viewable via video clip only. It is delivered in a PayAsYouGo SAAS style and each seat brings the benefits of Office365 too. A all-in price of $60 per user, per month might work well, for smaller organisations. Anyone with more than 20 users, probably will need to check the 5 & 10 year costs, in order to arrive at meaningful comparisons.

My spies tell me that the full SAAS offering is based on the previous Dynamics NAV offering. Having had recent experience of some of the tastier cloud based Financial System contenders, particularly one from 'down under', I hope they have applied a serious facelift. If not, Microsoft might be winding this one down sooner than anticipated.

When I get a full look under the bonnet of Dynamics365, if enough of you bean counting folk are interested, I will post an expansive review. In the meantime, here's the marketing collateral, a feast for the eyes and ears.

In the meantime, if you need to review your financial & ledger solutions, do get in touch if you need any advice.   
 
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Thursday, 15 September 2016

Show Your Light

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I have berated all kinds of things in this blog, now I wonder, is sales under threat? Is lack of supplier sales knowledge, driving organisations to look at the marketplace, to find what they perceive as the right solutions for them?

I have recently been working with two organisations, where in the car dealership sales language, they were pretty much looking to make a "Hands Up" software purchase. That's where a customer is desperate to buy and walks in with their "hands up" to surrender to the eager salesman.

You know what? Both are now looking at the marketplace, as the demonstration did not correctly inform them about USP's or integration, to an acceptable level. There was lots of integration to talk about, although nothing was covered. The sales person showing off the module knew it well enough, but apparently not how it connected to other complementary solutions, already in use at the site. The supplier in question has lots of its products in at the site and clearly had not thought about the wider aspects of the pitch.

Lesson number one & two of the sales process had been missed, "Know your customer" and "Know your product". Sales is about communication. Lets not forget that.

So, let's examine these two. Understanding why the customer may be looking for a new module is essential research. What problem have they got? Why does their existing solution not hit the spot? What other modules or solutions have they got currently? I doubt if these questions were posed.

For the module or solution being proposed, what are its USPs? How does this fit within the existing installed product set? If the customer has a lot of complementary solutions, how can that point be communicated as part of the sales process?

Increasingly, good integration and connectivity are being valued as the means of making processes and organisations more efficient. Customers are thinking of systems and processes in a joined up way, clearly some suppliers are not and not shining a light on it. To sell with staff with limited knowledge of a single module or aspect, seems to be failing to cut it for me.

Communicating a wider view of a solution on the table, in the context of possible and proven integration around it, is increasingly needed. Sales people without the skills to take advantage of that, will not be hitting their targets and maybe find they need to look to a move to a less squeezed sector, than socialhousing that is being ever forced to do more with less.     

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