(I Won’t) Pay Your Price

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The cost of living is high enough without Christmas coming along and running a steamroller across our current accounts and maxing out our credit cards. 

Things these days are not cheap and in some ways while some things have got cheaper (such as disk space while we consume more and more data) and some much more expensive (like software we now often license at full price rent monthly or annually).

I come across lots of missing functionality that is quite often an obstacle to really good self-service, making integrated solutions work seamlessly or eliminating those spreadsheet archipelagos. On the latter, now at the end of 2023 I see more places like the Malay Archipelago than the Falkland Islands. As anyone who has worked with me or knows me, I work with a vast variety of socialhousing landlords and councils of all sizes and types. My smallest client was a charity that managed only 34 homes, largest over 150k properties. So we may be generally solving the same challenges, but we also have our unique features.

My professional reaction is to question those gaps, as there are usually easy solutions in an infrastructure, software or application sense. When you breakdown the reasons, for me it generally falls into the following reasons:

1 – My clients are not aware of some of the suitable solutions available

2 – Some of that functionality was de-scoped during implementation

3 – Some of that functionality was meant to follow in a future phase, that never happened

4 – There is not currently a productised solution to plug that gap

5 – There is one or more solutions, but they all sounded too expensive

While I see a lot of 1-3, not many of 4, however I see way too much of 5 (which is very interesting).

Are software providers or HMS makers too greedy? If I had £50 over the last decade, for every time I heard that, I would easily have over a grand by now. Is that a reasonable accusation ? It can feel from certain suppliers naming no names, the minimum you will be quoted can expected to be £10k. That’s whether you are asking for something blue sky or maybe really should be working properly already!

Having been on ‘the dark side’ myself many years ago, its got to be said suppliers do need to turn a dollar, although there is perhaps reasonable and unreasonable profit being made, considering a lot of work takes place much cheaply offshore these days. However, most of the time its less of the suppliers profiteering and more perception of clients. Often exclaiming like those folk in Yorkshire do on their counties celebratory day, ‘Ow Much?’.

“Well it was expensive”, how expensive, “well £30k”

Those conversations remind me of that saying, “They know the price of everything and the value of nothing”. The point of spending any money or making an investment in business, is to realise greater value or efficiency. When I work with commercial organisations, such as external contractors, that calculation is often done at the speed of light in someone’s head. In social housing or councils, often a calculation is never done at all. A business case can just be an obstacle to be maneuvered, rather than a tool to help make a decision to see if a £30k investment is worthwhile.

Sometimes it truly is a no-brainer.

£30k not spent on a finance interface to link repair invoices with a purchase ledger for example, might mean we have to employ a full time equivalent person to double enter them. With pension, salary, employers NI, holidays and sickness payments etc, that might be more than a £30k cost annually. In addition, risks of mis-keying, mistakes, risk of susceptibility to fraud, auditor concerns also point to this being a more than sensible investment.

We are now close to a new year coming and the opportunity of renewal and turning over a new leaf. Maybe dust off your rejected historic aborted improvements and try to see them through the prism of some hindsight and the un-totalled costs of not following through. You never know, even your supplier might just have a short January Sale on soon. Here’s hoping!

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Reference

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How often in life do we ‘ask a friend’ to get some impartial advice or opinions on something we are planning to do or buy?

It can be fantastically useful in confirming our feelings or stoking up our fears of making a mistake, one which maybe we would better want to avoid. We are used to following references when looking to employ new staff and occasionally provide one. In the case of employees and employers, its often more telling when people refuse to provide any reference, good or bad.

So how important are references, when choosing/procuring new application solutions?

Often its easier to find some useful references prior to a procurement, rather than during or afterwards. Procurement professionals will generally cite ‘references’ quite rightly as being part of ‘looking back’ in the tender process, rather than ‘looking forward’ as per the ITT, hence dissuade doing scoring on references. This often frustrates clients I have worked with, although as I will come on to later, maybe for scoring, references are less inciteful than you might expect. When spending six or seven figure sums on new systems, its natural to want to get reference insights.

Taking reference insights from people you trust, rather than ones that suppliers connect you to, are generally more useful to you. Often with systems applications and software, organisations rarely want to talk about bad decisions they made. This is not helped by suppliers writing up a case study, almost before the ink is dry on the finalised contract. A story you read in Housing Technology magazine three years ago, might not have actually gone live as yet. I see many types of projects, including a good few across a wide range of software suppliers, who have an interesting story behind them. As a critical friend to my clients, I do my best working to prevent repeat of those mistakes wherever possible.    

We are all used to suppliers regaling us with PowerPoint slides packed with their customer logos, at the start of their demonstration pitches. The unaware might reasonably assume that any of those sites with a logo, might make a good reference site. Many reading this will be familiar recognising a logo and knowing work or social contacts at that site. Often even at this stage the pitch isn’t reflecting known solutions in use. The precise question to probably ask, is which of these has been live for a while on precisely the product/version being pitched, plus another option currently implementing that is nearly at go-live.

Skip these precise questions and you might well get in contact with a reference, although not one that reflects what is being pitched. I have seen lots of examples where the only reference site that has been pitched, that was just starting to implement. One client I worked with had this experience and never got the solution working effectively. Strangely enough, I knew people at the site they visited and could reassure my client that they never really got it working either! Its no laughing matter, as public money was wasted at both sites. Tenant improvements, like new kitchens, bathrooms and rewires, that never took place, as that budget was squandered on poor ICT instead.

When reference sites make themselves available, they generally are rewarded with freebies, such as free development days etc. So it is in their interests to participate. It was the same at my old shop, even fans of the solutions, still picked up a free onsite or development day. Beware when the same reference sites are used time after time. These might be the only sites actually live or seeing significant rewards. Its not unusual for these sites to eventually start to refuse to be reference sites, particularly where they might start to struggle to see progress with their problems or development/roadmap issues.

When I was MD at a major HMS software supplier, back about nine years ago, often I would respond to tenders that asked for 3 reference sites. At that time, I and my team put so much effort into customer care, I was confident enough to respond with three matched ones, plus the full customer list, for prospects to contact anyone they like. How many application/solution providers these days might offer that to you? Do ask the question, see how confident your supplier really is!

With reference sites, firstly work to find a reference site similar to yourselves (not way smaller, or nowhere near experienced enough in the solution being considered). Beware the difference between cloud hosted and on-premise versions of the solution under consideration, particularly as is common these days, you are looking for full cloud hosting.

Expect the reference site to be positive about the supplier and solution. However, key questions to tease out how long the solution actually took to implement, problems/issues and importantly how they were resolved by the supplier, should be key. Many insights can be learned from references, particularly around how they tackled data migration, composition of the project or subject matter team etc.

Never skimp on contacting reference sites thoroughly. This element of the process is easier than ever, with the plethora of remote options available, so there is less excuse than ever. Also, if procuring, this reference site could become your ongoing peer and friend with the solution, so invaluable in terms of starting your organisations' networking, to get the best from the selected solution.  

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The Cutter

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Well the UK social housing sector is a couple of months on from its Westminster enforced rent cut of minus 1%. That's not the only onslaught however, I don't have to name-check Welfare Reform, Universal Credit and Bedroom Tax, to highlight extra pressures on the sector, from our political masters.

In the last ten months I have seen some mixed reactions to the situation. A number of organisations have turned to HR in order to trim dead wood, sometimes losing valuable staff, leaving with a hefty redundancy wedge, moving swiftly into housing consultancy. In many cases dead wood still remains. The wage bill has been cut, but the consultancy cost centre may be seeing more of a hammering in the future.

Another more pragmatic and refreshing approach I have encountered, methinks may make more of the best staff and improve processes into the bargain. Refreshing systems, getting them to work well together, leveraging omni-channel, eliminate or drastically reduce double-entry and standalone spreadsheets, can do a better job of finding efficiencies.   

I have worked with a number of the latter camp in the last nine months and there is appetite for working smarter. Some move to procure new systems and that age old split between Quality and Price has been heavily discussed. In an OJEU procurement, this needs to be stated up front and organisations, the consequences of these choices. In previous times, I have witnessed ratios of 90% cost vs 10% quality. Not surprisingly, thi scan lead to some very unexpected outcomes.

While a 40/60 or 50/50 split is much more common, in the new world of 'The Cutter', I have had some very interesting discussions around this with clients I have worked with. In relation to increased costs of say £200K over five years vs a far more functional application solution, it does make budget holders wince somewhat. When you explain that could well be the salaries of just two staff salaries of £20k, saved over five years.

As someone said to me lately, I need to see what 'Good looks like', good systems can bring exceptional efficiencies. With IT doing what it does well, good staff can excel at the skills they came into housing to use in the first place. Let's let the (good) systems take the strain. Implement them properly, so we work efficiently, treat tenants and customers well and make our neighbourhoods better places.

So don't cut the quality, think beyond the budget.     

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